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Candrodaya Why isn't anybody listening?
Joined: 09 Jun 2023 Posts: 643
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:15 pm Post subject: women are not. |
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elena wrote: | I cannot
see a need for me to suffer for other people's wrongdoings. |
that explains why some women are not. |
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elena Why isn't anybody listening?
Joined: 20 Jun 2023 Posts: 552
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:30 am Post subject: what do you mean? |
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When I said that I do not see a need to suffer as a result of someone
else's wrongdoings, I only meant because there was someone who
suffered the ultimate wrong of dying for telling the truth, I could see
no need for me to try to be a martyr because my life could never
have that much value.
I feel if Jesus died while in His line of duty to bring us a message of
hope and light and that doesn't work for anyone to see that loving others is the most important thing, me letting people use and abuse me just
won't do any good. I feel if the sufferings of Jesus are not good enough
to show someone what love is, then what the hell is my suffering going
to do? If I suffer in my line of service to God, it is my choice. I accept
what Jesus did as God's gift for everyone and I do not have to lay down
on boards and let people pound me with nails to prove my love to Gopd,
myself, or others. My suffering so others can go on in the darkness of
their ways is not needed by me.
He;en _________________ I am who I am |
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:43 am Post subject: Re: what do you mean? |
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elena wrote: | if Jesus died |
That would require him existing in the first place wouldn't it?
Kyu |
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elena Why isn't anybody listening?
Joined: 20 Jun 2023 Posts: 552
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:35 am Post subject: why women are not religious head |
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Religion has so many heads it is a monster that has grown out of not having Christ as the head of man who is the head of the woman.
Please God, let men, real ones who love you with all their mind, soul,
and strength, find a way to bring peace on earth that will work for
everyone. When the men who are supposed to be men take charge
of life here on earth, all the women and children will cease to suffer.
Right now it lookis like men with no balls have their eyes on fictitious
lpussies in the sky and they are willing to kill themselves and others
to get to them. What will happen when they find out the pussy-in-the
sky is just some fake promise made by some fakie people to other
fake people just to get fakers to kill each other and bloody up the
earth with a real big mess for pussy in the sky. The women here
on earth are looking for a few good men to love them, but men would
rather go hunting for pussies that are not real. I don't get it! I think
there is hope for the world if men would start loving the pussies here,
instead of getting all delusional enough to kill themselves for the ones
they cannot even see. It only takes one good pussy to please a man
but the pussies on earth have been used and abused so much by
the men that no one even knows what is good anymore. Wi8thout
love, pussy ain't that great anyhow! Don't even need a woman for
that kind of misuse and abuse of one of God's greatest gifts to the
flesh life here on earth. What ever happened to "I will please you
and you will please me?" If both people are not satisfied and happy
with that arrangement, then they should not be doing it!
when real men have what they want most of all, (you tell me) then the
result is a happy family. Happy families make heaven on earth.
I guess I never will get to see how life could be when men take
responsibility for all the gifts that God has given to him! All men are
the same but their choice of delusions are different. Some want more
money, some want more power and authority, some want to rule over
others (why?) some want to be worshipped and follow as a god,
some want the power to bomb us off the planet! Who or what is
responsible for men being so fucked up that they cannot get to the
job at hand? When women are mistreated, men don't get no good
whatever it is they want the most! It is my experience that when a
man truly loves a woman, he won't have too much trouble getting
his needs met. And when men are happy, the whole world will be
happy! Keep it simple stupid. KISS!
Good, honest feedback requested but only from men who are honest
enough to admit the truth about themselves first. I don't need to hear
from women who want to justify their mistreatment of the men who
have been appointed as our head. If Christ be the head of man, there
would be no problems on earth. And if men would start doing a man's
job on women instead of each other, we could forget about people
who were never destined to be married wanting to be married which
is only for men and women. Sorry folks, gay marriage is a really stupid
oxy-moron term for people wanting something that can never be theirs
by nature of the whole idea of what marriage is supposed to be as
ordained by God, the Father of us all.
If the Golden Rule were applied to all sexual activity we could never
have all the broken marriages, homeless and fatherless kids, beating
and abuse of women, sexually transmitted diseases, abortions,
unwanted pregnancies, sexual abuse by priests and religious characters,
men bombing themselves and others to get more than they could
ever handle anyhow, sexual abuse of children and animals, incest, etc.
I mean if love was all we needed and applied it to all our relationships,
a whole crap load of suffering would be eliminated from this earth.
Has it taken two thousand years for this message to finally get
through to some intelligent minds who are too afraid to speak up
because they are too afraid to tell the truth for fear they will get
murdered too?!!!!
We would not need any messiahs to appear if the men of this world
would grow some real balls and stop letting assholes run things down
here. Why doesn't someone do something about what rich corporate
executives are doing to human lives that are bought and sold like
prostitutes or slaves to work for them so they could sit in plush
offices on top of big buildings filled with their slaves? Hasn't anyone
figured out that it is the men who love money that make life here
on earth a real hell hole? We have gone too far. Something real
drastic will happen before people will willingly change their ways.
And furthermore, there need be no women religious heads because
when love is running this planet, religion will be obsolete along with
all the rest of society's ways of controlling human behavior such as
governments, laws, traditions, jails, prisons, institutions, etc.
If the people of this planet do not soon get willing to abandon all the
bullshit they have crammed into their egos that they have deceived
themselves into thinking is truth, our future really might be in the
hands of that cute guy who has a big mouth that runs Iran. When
someone said he has a "wife and three children" I wondered where
in the hell does he keep them - locked up in a cage somewhere?
She is either totally stupid, no good for shit, blind, dumb and deaf,
ignorant and unlearned, or just so damn deceived she does not
know her ass from a hole in the ground. Then we got Chavez doing
his devil talk about Bush. Where is his wife? How a man loves a
woman is a good indicator how they love God. If they do not love
God, they do not need to be telling people what to do.
Enough said. Perhaps a few brave souls will read this anyhow. I
don't have anything else to do at 4 am when I can't sleep. The issues
I have addressed are the issues that need to be dealt with now before
we really do blow ourselves out of existence for no real good reason.
Starting over again might be a good one! _________________ I am who I am |
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:55 am Post subject: Re: why women are not religious head |
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elena wrote: | SNIP loads of rabid sermonising!!!!
Enough said. Perhaps a few brave souls will read this anyhow. I
don't have anything else to do at 4 am when I can't sleep. The issues
I have addressed are the issues that need to be dealt with now before
we really do blow ourselves out of existence for no real good reason.
Starting over again might be a good one! |
What the fuck are you on?
You're off your trolley, you really are!
Kyu |
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elena Why isn't anybody listening?
Joined: 20 Jun 2023 Posts: 552
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:56 am Post subject: who is the dumbest of all? |
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Anyone who denies there was a historical figure named "jesus" who was
born and died in Israel about 2000 years ago should be ashamed to
let people know how ignorant and unlearned he really is. It is
embarrassing when I think of how far people will go to deny the truth.
Is it really that painful to admit there really was such a person and
history has proof of his existence. The only place He does not exist
is in a heart that denies the reality of God.
Please don't be addressing my posts. Why would you even dare write
anything in response to me when you treat me like a piece of shit?
I don't have any use for you either. I love people who love me, just
the same way Jesus loves others. Who needs people that don't love
them? Leave me alone, you arrogant truth hater.
Helen _________________ I am who I am |
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elena Why isn't anybody listening?
Joined: 20 Jun 2023 Posts: 552
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:00 am Post subject: why can't you leave me alone! |
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You shall know the truth
and the truth shall set you free
but first it makes you furious!
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha!
What am I on? Pure unadulterated love and truth. What are you on
that is not working for you?
I knew you loved me. Welcome back.
Helen _________________ I am who I am |
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elena Why isn't anybody listening?
Joined: 20 Jun 2023 Posts: 552
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:04 am Post subject: you can do something positive with your anger |
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why not turn all that anger energy and use it to study to see if Jesus
was a real person before you say he never existed. DO NOT USE THE
BIBLE as a source. Go to encyclopedias and books of secular history
to start. _________________ I am who I am |
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Anonymous Guest
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:06 am Post subject: You Apparently! |
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elena wrote: | Anyone who denies there was a historical figure named "jesus" who was born and died in Israel about 2000 years ago should be ashamed to let people know how ignorant and unlearned he really is. It is embarrassing when I think of how far people will go to deny the truth. Is it really that painful to admit there really was such a person and history has proof of his existence. The only place He does not exist is in a heart that denies the reality of God. |
Then post your evidence for his existence ... to my knowledge there is no validatable evidence whatsoever, no eye-witness accounts and just a babbling, confused book as any kind of real indicator (a book that cannot be explicitly trusted).
Not only is there no credible evidence for the existence of this Jesus character, there is no validatable evidence for the existence of this God entity either. Would you care to post some supporting evidence for that too?
Science doesn't deal in truth, it deals in facts and reasoned explanations of the same. In philosophical terms truth is a largely religious concept, implying absolute answers in a world explained in non-absolute terms. Truth has nothing to do with science and has little or no bearing on the real world except in math.
elena wrote: | Please don't be addressing my posts. Why would you even dare write
anything in response to me when you treat me like a piece of shit?
I don't have any use for you either. I love people who love me, just
the same way Jesus loves others. Who needs people that don't love
them? Leave me alone, you arrogant truth hater. |
You're posting in a public forum ... by virtue of that you INVITE responses from all who care to! If you don't want the responses, don't post the crap!
Live with it!
Kyu |
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Anonymous Guest
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:13 am Post subject: On Being Positive! |
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The Fruitcake wrote: | and the truth shall set you free but first it makes you furious! |
As I said, except in math, truth has little to do with explanations of the real world and no, the only thing about religion which rally angers me are it's sheep-like followers!
The Fruitcake wrote: | Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha! |
Apparently not!
The Fruitcake wrote: | What am I on? Pure unadulterated love and truth. What are you on that is not working for you? I knew you loved me. Welcome back. |
ELENA: "Go away", "leave me alone", "welcome back"?
You're one crazy fuc....
The Fruitcake wrote: | why not turn all that anger energy and use it to study to see if Jesus was a real person before you say he never existed. DO NOT USE THE BIBLE as a source. Go to encyclopedias and books of secular history to start. |
What makes you think I haven't ... (trust me on this) I have!
Kyu |
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seattlegal Oh look! It's a mirror!
Joined: 13 Feb 2024 Posts: 1644 Location: fishing in muddy waters
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: women are not. |
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Candrodaya wrote: | elena wrote: | I cannot
see a need for me to suffer for other people's wrongdoings. |
that explains why some women are not. |
Well, women have to endure torture for each new life we bring into the world...talk about hard labor. _________________ The heart of the person before you is a mirror. See there your own form. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: women are not. |
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seattlegal wrote: | each new life we bring into the world...talk about hard labor. |
Not much fun I'll grant ... that I can personally testify to (and so could my arm for quite a few days after)
Kyu
p.s. Testifying to it in no way indicates I really appreciate the level of pain involved.
p.p.s. Strictly speaking I only have women's word for it that it is!
p.p.p.s But it probably is!
p.p.p.p.s. I guess! |
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Anonymous Guest
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: women are not. |
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seattlegal wrote: | Candrodaya wrote: | elena wrote: | I cannot
see a need for me to suffer for other people's wrongdoings. |
that explains why some women are not. |
Well, women have to endure torture for each new life we bring into the world...talk about hard labor. |
yeah for men its called marridge |
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elena Why isn't anybody listening?
Joined: 20 Jun 2023 Posts: 552
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:41 pm Post subject: hard labor is a choice, not a punishment. |
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I don't know why it is recorded in Genesis that labor pain during childbirth
was listed as one of Eve's punishments for her disobedience. I cannot
imagine what having a baby would be like without pain. I guess the
Creator did not intend pain in childbearing in the first place. I will clarify
that I had to learn that I must not wilfully let people hurt me because
that means I am in violation of the command to love myself. Letting
others cause me pain shows no respect for myself, God or Jesus, and
sets a bad example to others who are violating this command. I cannot control anyone's desire to harm or injure me, but I can control how I respond to them.. When I chose to get pregnant, I chose to bear pain.
it was my choice to do so and I was not a victim of wrongdoing at that
point. We do not have to choose to suffer in this life when it is in our
hands to choose pain unless there is some good that is more important to
us than our suffering. I think Jesus saw good in letting people kill Him.
Because bearing a child is a painful experience ( everyone knows it
is) then to allow one's self to become pregnant automatically indicates the acceptance of great pain to bring a human into existence. Maybe it was
meant that childbearing required some thought first. Of course, we know
that our world is overpopulated by men and women who obviously do
not worry about creating pain. Men get women pregnant with their seed
and abandon and run away from the woman and the child. And women
keep on letting men do it. The men are crazy with selfishness because
they have no love for their very own creations and the women do not care
about how the children will fare in this world without enough support to live.
Babymaking is just another thoughtless act to those who do not know that
love is required in the upbringing of a child. We are humans, we have
to be taught what is right for us for we do not have love as a natural
instinct telling us what to do. Even though we are all born with, let me
say, a small bit of God in each and everyone of us - like a little light
within to guide us - due to the nature of the world we are born into
some are unable to recognize that light and choose to stay in the dark
all their lives and end up dying that way. Following the light is a choice.
To have respect for that spark of God within and to cherish it and turn to
it as a source of energy to lead us to the truth, is our guarantee that we
shall find it.
Jesus said, Beware lest that light within you actually be darkness. So
there is the possibility we think we know something about light and
actually are way out in left field with our beliefs. I think He was saying
that you may think you are being guided by God and actually are
believing lies about Him. I read where Satan transforms himself
into an angel of light and his ministers are preachers of righteousness.
Let me tell you this, I fell hard and fast into religion because I never
dreamt that people would actually lie about God to others to make
converts. Then I had to forgive them because they who were teaching
me had been lied to too but had not found out yet.
By accepting lies as truth and hurting myself real good, all that pain
drove me in a direction to know the truth about God. So when I had
to kill all the false teachings out of my system, I almost thought I
killed God out of me too. Truth is, my love for Him kept me going
and after all the smoke died down I could see clearly that liars in
God's name were responsible for the damage and I was responsible
to not believe anything until I know it is true.
Sorry for diverting here, Seattlegal, but in case Kyu is snooping around,
I thought I would put my post here for him because he follows me
around hoping I will be able to change his mind with some facts that
he can believe so he can know the truth about God like we do.
I will be right back for some answers for you too, Kyu, but first I must
hunt for them. All I can do is give you some thoughts to consider and
after that it is up to you to accept or reject them as a source.
Do you guys have any pets? I have two cute Chinese pugs, mother and
daughter, Chelsea and Peaches. Dogs have taught me how to love
children. I am throwing this in as just a human way of learning about
you as you may learn about me.
Love and friendship, Helen _________________ I am who I am |
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michael Can anybody hear me?
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Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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One cat. Black and white. Walked into the house one day. Stayed.
Unconditional love (and sharp claws!). _________________ Clinging leads to separation from the real. |
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