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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Why women are not religious Head Reply with quote

Nksagar wrote:
Budhism also donot give top slot in their religion.


I'm thinking "the Buddha" didn't choose his gender prior to his birth, nor had much say about the societal norms (about gender roles) into which he was born.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gouranga das wrote:

If you are a Buddhist,you will surely know that we are all born into the darkness of ignorance and it is only by the grace of the spiritual masters that our eyes can be opened with the touchlight of knowledge.



Could you expand on this a little please?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Why women are not religious Head Reply with quote

michael wrote:
Nksagar wrote:
Budhism also donot give top slot in their religion.


I'm thinking "the Buddha" didn't choose his gender prior to his birth.

he did. I guess its because he is purusa and is not pretending to like others.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Why women are not religious Head Reply with quote

Candrodaya wrote:
he did.


I'm impressed.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't break your head if you cant get to the answer.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:42 am    Post subject: women being the head Reply with quote

Women are not the religious head because religion has not come to
grips that their traditions are not founded on truth.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: women being the head Reply with quote

elena wrote:
Women are not the religious head because religion has not come to
grips that their traditions are not founded on truth.

Helen


well said Helen.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:57 am    Post subject: I just read this whole subject again Reply with quote

I wish to say that my purpose in this life is to become One with God
through the truth expressed by the words and life of His Son.

I am on a journey and must continually change when change is
necessary. My mind is not set in stone. I am pliable like clay
and God is the potter who forms me. But anyone can give their
clay to God so that He may fashion it into a beautiful piece of
work.

Because I have been willing to accept that all religions have kernels
of truth, it is all right for me to look into all religious teachings to see if
there is something I can glean from their understanding of God that
might profit me in this life.

I started first to examine many Christian theologies. I learned what
a soul was. I learned that heaven and hell have not been presented
in the proper light of truth. I learned that when we love God we embrace
Him, not out of fear, but out of faith. Now I study the Eastern religions.
When I see a teaching that veers too far from the principles laid down
in the Ten Commandments I begin to question the validity of that
teaching. But I have found many teachings in the Eastern traditions
that fit perfectly into my faith because they are identical to what
I believe but they are expressed in the terms of that religion.

Because of people who have been willing to take time to present their
beliefs by way of godulike, I have had a chance of a lifetime to learn
where I am wrong, where others are right, and what I need to do
to be more adaptable to the truth. For me the Truth is embodied in
a person called Jesus Christ. I find many who embrace the truth
He brought but do not realize it is Christ they are conformed to.
That is okay. Wherever there is divine love in action, there is the
presence of God. And I do love His presence more than anything
in this world.

Helen
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this is stuff you’ve already gone over, but I offer this for what worth you may (or may not) find in it. Starting from your commitment to the Ten Commandments and the fact that you are now studying Eastern traditions; the “ethical signposts” of Buddhism are these:

To develop compassion towards all living creatures (and so not to kill).
To develop generosity (and so not to take that which is not given).
To behave responsibly towards others (and so not to engage in misconduct).
To speak the truth, appropriately and helpfully (and so not to say hurtful words).
To maintain a clear mind (and so not to cloud the mind with intoxicants).
They are called the five precepts.

Thich Nhat Hanh has also created an expanded, more contemporary precept guide.
They are these:
1. Do not be idolatrous about or bound to any doctrine, theory, or ideology, even Buddhist ones. All systems of thought are guiding means; they are not absolute truth. If you have a gun, you can shoot one, two, three, five people; but if you have an ideology and stick to it, thinking it is the absolute truth, you can kill millions.
2. Do not think that the knowledge you presently possess is changeless, absolute truth. Avoid being narrow-minded and bound to present views. Learn and practice non-attachment from views in order to be open to receive others’ viewpoints. Truth is found in life and not merely in conceptual knowledge. Be ready to learn throughout your entire life and to observe reality in yourself and in the world at all times.
3. Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education. However, through compassionate dialogue, help others renounce fanaticism and narrowness.
4. Do not avoid contact with suffering or close your eyes before suffering. Do not lose awareness of the existence of suffering in the life of the world. Find ways to be with those who are suffering by all means, including personal contact and visits, images, sound. By such means, awaken yourself and others to the reality of suffering in the world.
5. Do not accumulate wealth while millions are hungry. Do not take as the aim of your life fame, profit, wealth or sensual pleasure. Live simply and share time, energy and material resources with those who are in need. In the context of our modern society, simple living also means to remain as free as possible from the destructive social and economic machine, and to avoid stress, depression, high blood pressure and other modern diseases.
6. Do not maintain anger or hatred. As soon as anger and hatred arise, practice meditation on compassion in order to deeply understand the persons who have caused anger and hatred. Learn to look at other beings with the eyes of compassion.
7. Do not lose yourself in dispersion and in your surroundings. Learn to practice breathing in order to regain composure of body and mind, to practice mindfulness, and to develop concentration and understanding. Live in awareness.
8. Do not utter words that can create discord and cause the community to break. Make every effort to reconcile and resolve all conflicts, however small.
9. Do not say untruthful things for the sake of personal interest or to impress people. Do not utter words that cause division or hatred. Do not spread news that you do not know to be certain. Do not criticize or condemn things that you are not sure of. Always speak truthfully and constructively. Have the courage to speak out about situations of injustice, even when doing so may threaten your own safety.
10. Do not use your religious community for personal gain or profit, or transform your community into a political party. A religious community should, however, take a clear stand against oppression and injustice, and should strive to change the situation without engaging in partisan conflicts.
11. Do not live with a vocation that is harmful to humans and nature. Do not invest in companies that deprive others of their chance to life. Select a vocation which helps realize your ideal of compassion.
12. Do not kill. Do not let others kill. Find whatever means possible to protect life and to prevent war.
13. Possess nothing that should belong to others. Respect the property of others but prevent others from enriching themselves from human suffering or the suffering of other beings.
14. Do not mistreat your body. Learn to handle it with respect. Do not look on your body as only an instrument. Preserve vital energies (sexual, breath, spirit) for the realization of the Way. Sexual expression should not happen without love and commitment. In sexual relationships be aware of future suffering that may be caused. To preserve the happiness of others, respect the rights and commitments of others. Be fully aware of the responsibility of bringing new lives into the world. Meditate on the world into which you are bringing new beings.

There are two books of his (which I have not read, but I have read others by him) which may be of interest to you, in view of what you say. They are: “Living Buddha, Living Christ” and “Going Home: Jesus and Buddha as Brothers”. You can read about them at

https://www.parallax.org/index.html
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

michael wrote:
There are two books of his (which I have not read, but I have read others by him) which may be of interest to you, in view of what you say. They are: “Living Buddha, Living Christ” and “Going Home: Jesus and Buddha as Brothers”.

I've read Living Buddha, Living Christ more than once. I'd highly recommend it.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There you go Elena, a recommendation from a very clear mind.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a transcript of a Jesus and Buddha as Brothers in the teachings section here:https://www.plumvillage.org/index.htm

Here's part of it
Quote:
You know something? During the time you practice breathing In and Out, acknowledging your anger and smiling to it, the energy of the Buddha is in you. The Buddha is in you, the Buddha as an ancestor is protecting you. You know that the Buddha is not an idea. The Buddha is true energy. The energy of the Buddha is the energy of Mindfulness, the energy of peace, the energy of wisdom.



If you are a practising Christian your practice should be something like this also. When the evil spirit is within you, the evil spirit is the spirit of despair, anger, violence, and of hate. When the evil spirit is within you, you have to be aware that it is in you. You ask Jesus to come and to become manifest in you in order for you to be able to recognise the evil in yourself and to embrace it.



With prayer and contemplation, with the reading of the Bible you put yourself in a safe situation. You are able to contain, to control, to transform the negative energy in you, the energy you call evil spirit. The Holy Spirit is the energy that you need in order to embrace and take care of the negative energy in you. For those of us who practice mindfulness, we think, we believe that the energy of mindfulness (which is the energy of the Buddha), is the equivalent of what our friends call the Holy Spirit.



The Holy Spirit is the kind of energy that is capable of being there, of understanding, of accepting, of loving and of healing. If you agree that the Holy Spirit has the power to be present to understand, to heal, to love , if you agree about this, then you have to say it is the same thing as the energy of Mindfulness. Where Mindfulness is, there is true presence. Where Mindfulness is, there is the capacity to understand. You have the capacity to accept, to become compassionate, to love therefore able to touch the energy of mindfulness to become manifest in you. The Buddha as a spiritual ancestor is manifest in you. You are able to allow the Holy Spirit to be in you, to guide you, to shine on you like a lamp. Jesus is then alive in you that very moment.



There are those of us who have the Buddha and have Jesus, and these people have roots within the Buddhist tradition and also within the Christian tradition. In my hermitage I put a lot of Buddha Statues on my altar, about 10 or 15 very small Buddhas one centimetre high, and many big Buddhas like this, and also a statue of Jesus as my ancestor. I have adopted Jesus Christ as one of my spiritual ancestors because of the fact that I have met a few Christians I respect and love deeply.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:21 am    Post subject: How great it is! Reply with quote

Guess what? I say "ditto" to all you wrote. It is what I believe in its
entirety and I know it is truth because it is what I found already
in the teachings of Jesus. So Jesus, move over, Buddha believes in
you too! Or is it Jesus believes in Buddha too? Who cares, they
both have a message of love that can transform lives into healthy
and beautiful spiritual relationships with others and God. Herein
lies the problem: Only those who are seekers will be finders.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Guess what? I say "ditto" to all you wrote. It is what I believe in its
entirety and I know it is truth because it is what I found already
in the teachings of Jesus. So Jesus, move over, Buddha believes in
you too! Or is it Jesus believes in Buddha too? Who cares, they
both have a message of love that can transform lives into healthy
and beautiful spiritual relationships with others and God. Herein
lies the problem: Only those who are seekers will be finders.

Helen

Helen, there is probably much at this site a seeker like you would enjoy.
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