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Rat_bytes But is reflection proof of life?
Joined: 22 May 2023 Posts: 3108 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2023 11:08 am Post subject: |
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well, thanks Helen, I never would have guessed that it's my choice not to believe in god, very good of you to clear that up for me.
Quote: | I have been ridiculed in these forums, called names, put down and criticized for my belief in love, which happens to be my God. |
Oh, no you haven't, dear Helen, you have been criticized for preaching, being judgemental, and generally being a right royal pain in the ass, which we all are from time to time. Nothing to be taken personally, as you appear to have done.
Quote: | Only those who wish to find God can find Him and He just has to let those who have no interest or love in the truth enough to try to find it just bumble around in their arrogance, darkness of mind and blindness. True humility does not permit us to boast of things we know not. I know what love is. I guess that means that I know God is love. |
No, you confuse "love" with "belief". You cannot say that something you have absolutely no proof of is "the truth". That is your BELIEF.
I can love another human being with all of my mind, body, and soul, I can love a dog, a rat, a cat, hell, even a place.
But I cannot love something I have never seen, heard, smelled or touched.
I agree with you when you say that the church knows not the true way, but our opinions differ as to what that true way is. Sure, love is good, to love is to live, but to live is not to love. 99.99% of species on this planet are not intelligent enough to know the meaning or concept of love (I refer to insects, reptiles, and the like), and your strident assertion that life, love, and god are the same things is fairly species-conceited, as far as I'm concerned. You, my dear Helen, have simply got carried away over a mere chemical reaction that is restricted to most mammals and some birds.
There may be a god, but It has nothing to do with an insignificant little emotion. If It existed, It would not have MADE everything, It would BE everything. It may not even be able to think, at least in the way that we do. _________________ Las Reglas De la Rata.
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jaetheory Is anybody out there?
Joined: 28 Nov 2023 Posts: 8 Location: usually somewhere I'm not
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2023 9:24 am Post subject: To the above |
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Everthing is God. Everything was created from or exists of God. God is love. Everything is created trying to progress or live. Why? For the love of life, which in turn is the love for everything God has created. Every moment you live you sense God so how can you say you cannot love God when God is all you know. God is love and this is the truth, Jesus acted and spoke truthfully with love where he is both because of this. Jesus left behind the Holy Spirit or the Spirit of Truth which can show you truth with love. All three of these points are of the same. The Trinity is complete. The strongest shape in the known universe is the triangle and this is the foundation for faith, a foundation built of love. If Love can move mountains, could it shape and create and entire universe as well? I think so. |
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Rat_bytes But is reflection proof of life?
Joined: 22 May 2023 Posts: 3108 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2023 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Errrr... Since when has love moved a mountain? Last time I checked, mountains moved because of incredibly slow fluctuations in the earths crust causing rifts and irregularities on the surface. _________________ Las Reglas De la Rata.
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seattlegal Oh look! It's a mirror!
Joined: 13 Feb 2024 Posts: 1644 Location: fishing in muddy waters
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2023 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Rat_bytes wrote: | Errrr... Since when has love moved a mountain? Last time I checked, mountains moved because of incredibly slow fluctuations in the earths crust causing rifts and irregularities on the surface. |
What is any length of time, even an incredibly long one, when compared to eternity? _________________ The heart of the person before you is a mirror. See there your own form. |
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Rat_bytes But is reflection proof of life?
Joined: 22 May 2023 Posts: 3108 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2023 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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that's not the issue here. we were talking about love moving mountains, which, to my extensive amount of knowledge, it is incapable of doing. _________________ Las Reglas De la Rata.
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Mythblaster Can anybody hear me?
Joined: 03 Mar 2023 Posts: 183 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2023 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Rat_bytes wrote: | that's not the issue here. we were talking about love moving mountains, which, to my extensive amount of knowledge, it is incapable of doing. |
Depends what you determine to be a "mountain", my furry pal .
Why on earth would we desire to use "love" to move an ACTUAL mountain, or any other method, for that matter???
But if we see a mountain as a metaphor, that would make more sense, non? Would it not be a mountain to achieve global peace? To me, that would indeed be a mountain worthy of moving!
Could collective love and altruism "move" that "mountain"? You bet it could, buddy. Problem is, that enough people would REALLY need to WANT it. Do they? Not so far, not if our history is a barometer - |
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Rat_bytes But is reflection proof of life?
Joined: 22 May 2023 Posts: 3108 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2023 1:30 am Post subject: |
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I'm aware of what a metaphor is, I'm just being difficult towards Jaetheory. You know how it is. _________________ Las Reglas De la Rata.
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Mythblaster Can anybody hear me?
Joined: 03 Mar 2023 Posts: 183 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2023 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Rat_bytes wrote: | I'm aware of what a metaphor is, I'm just being difficult towards Jaetheory. You know how it is. |
Oh! Okay then. Go right ahead . I just wish he/she would use the odd paragraph or two!
Not too much to ask, I hope - |
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Maisie Can anybody hear me?
Joined: 01 Feb 2024 Posts: 235 Location: Conservatory
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aged hippy I think they get the picture
Joined: 09 Jan 2024 Posts: 1378 Location: non-local and drifting gently ....
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2023 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ratb,
You said:
Quote: | There may be a god, but It has nothing to do with an insignificant little emotion. If It existed, It would not have MADE everything, It would BE everything. It may not even be able to think, at least in the way that we do. |
"It would BE everything" — this happens to be what i - among many other people - happen to believe to be the case.
_________________ "Consciousness is a singular for which there is no plural." — Erwin Schrödinger
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"It looks to every side and sees itself from itself." — The Sophia of Jesus Christ |
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Rat_bytes But is reflection proof of life?
Joined: 22 May 2023 Posts: 3108 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2023 6:24 am Post subject: |
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If it is "everything", then why call it god? Why not just call it "everything"? _________________ Las Reglas De la Rata.
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aged hippy I think they get the picture
Joined: 09 Jan 2024 Posts: 1378 Location: non-local and drifting gently ....
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2023 7:08 pm Post subject: For a pint of ........ |
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It's a handy name to call it, i certainly don't think of it as 'god', it's only in discussions when it's necessary to imply that the Universe is greater than the sum of it's parts.
For instance, to call it 'everything' seems - to me - to imply 'everything that i/we can see and touch' (in the physical sense), whereas to call it 'god' implies that i feel that there's a greater force behind the Universe, a Spiritual aspect to it.
It's a name, RatB, a name — i don't worship it.
I'll call it Greene King IPA, if you like.
_________________ "Consciousness is a singular for which there is no plural." — Erwin Schrödinger
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Rat_bytes But is reflection proof of life?
Joined: 22 May 2023 Posts: 3108 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2023 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ Las Reglas De la Rata.
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Maisie Can anybody hear me?
Joined: 01 Feb 2024 Posts: 235 Location: Conservatory
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2023 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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But you like to be called an atheist or whatever you are, like to be part of a group that believes in the same things. Is this not part of human nature? Why the hate? _________________ Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. |
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helenawoman Is anybody out there?
Joined: 11 Feb 2024 Posts: 33 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2023 9:38 pm Post subject: God????? |
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It was interesting to drop in for a visit on the godulike forum. I saw a few positive thoughts exhibited, but for the most part all I saw were ignorant,
arrogant boasts from people who claim that the shit floating in their brains is some kind of truth that people should pay attention to.
Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. Those who argue against the spirit and grace of God have no sense of reality
of what this life is like when it all falls down on you. I do not care who
believes in God or not. It does not bother me that people worship
Satan, whoever that is. I ignore characters who want my attention just
to piss them off. The best defense against an enemy is to treat them
with indifference. With all the hate that Mr. Rat Bytes has against me
only confirms that I am somewhat correct in my beliefs.
You shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall make you free, but first,
it makes you furious. Thanks for all your fury. It really makes me glad
that I am a believer. I do not get mad at people who disagree with me,
who cares what they think, they are allowed to believe whatever they
wish. Live and let live. Works for me.
Yes, I am still out here and please do not categorize everyone as a
non -belliever on the forum. You assume way too much for your little
young and twisted thinking, Ratheimer, Ratmeister, whatever.
If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, acts like a rat--it must be a rat!
Still the same, I am what I am and that who is I am. _________________ I AM WHO I AM AND THAT IS ALL WHO I AM |
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